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he has a very able guy playing joe biden in the debate prep and, at the same time, joe biden has been hunkered down for six days preparing for the debate with the role of ryan played by chris van hollen who happens to know ryan very well. can biden keep his cool? that is the question. >>eric: what is the sense, at least among, or need the beltway, you people there, not necessarily the media, what is the sense? even? leaning to paul ryan? >> in this debate, yes, most people are expecting paul ryan to do well in the debate if not outright win it. that is my expectation but i think that the media is itching to write an obama come back narrative story. if joe biden doesn't collapse on stage, that will be seen --. >>eric: they said the same thing about president obama, all he has to do is show up. and that was a different story. thank you, guy. >> of course, neil cavuto and his team will be headed to the debate in kentucky on thursday. don't miss all of the pre- and post-debate coverage. special coverage will start right here on fox at 4:00 p.m. on "your world," and then at 8:00 p.m. kicki
he has a very able guy playing joe biden in the debate prep and, at the same time, joe biden has been hunkered down for six days preparing for the debate with the role of ryan played by chris van hollen who happens to know ryan very well. can biden keep his cool? that is the question. >>eric: what is the sense, at least among, or need the beltway, you people there, not necessarily the media, what is the sense? even? leaning to paul ryan? >> in this debate, yes, most people are...
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when joe biden was a vp candidate in 2008 he wasn't well defined. now he has a larger than life persona to live up to. so does ryan. >> joe biden had a reputation in congress. >> now he's in the onion. >> steve schmidt says there is no sympathetic character up there with biden this time which is to say there is no sarah palin. biden will bring his proverbial none chucks and brass knuckles. >> i think literally. >> there was a lot of talk about the gender dynamics and how biden couldn't go on the attack. paul ryan is a young dude but has a congressional record he's basically semi sort of or not at all running on depending on the day. we know joe bind has a copy of "young guns". >> do you think he's reading it? >> i do. >> you have someone who's risen up through the ranks of the policy wong wonkery on the right and someone with a natural feel with people. it will be great to see those police station come through head to head, especially when it comes to paul ryan and mitt romney's budget plans. for seniors that single group joe biden can reach no one
when joe biden was a vp candidate in 2008 he wasn't well defined. now he has a larger than life persona to live up to. so does ryan. >> joe biden had a reputation in congress. >> now he's in the onion. >> steve schmidt says there is no sympathetic character up there with biden this time which is to say there is no sarah palin. biden will bring his proverbial none chucks and brass knuckles. >> i think literally. >> there was a lot of talk about the gender dynamics...
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. >> will joe biden have to prove he's tougher? >> we think he'll come at me like a can bonn ball. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell. mitt romney is trying to turn the momentum from his debate performance into a political tidal wave. stinging to swing state spots including today's foreign policy speech containing attacks on the president's record. during the daily fix, chris. this was mitt romney going after president obama saying he's leading from behind. i just got off a conference call the obama team put on with madeleine albright. he barely mentioned china and his mention of russia they say russia is not the greatest foreign policy challenge. when it comes to the middle east he senses vulnerability in the wake of benghazi. >> i think it's an attempt for romney to push the reset button. they put out a statement, a political statement before we knew about the death of ambassador chris stef ens that they could have handled it better but it doesn't mean they should leave the issue alone. they think the president is vulnerable. i tho
. >> will joe biden have to prove he's tougher? >> we think he'll come at me like a can bonn ball. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell. mitt romney is trying to turn the momentum from his debate performance into a political tidal wave. stinging to swing state spots including today's foreign policy speech containing attacks on the president's record. during the daily fix, chris. this was mitt romney going after president obama saying he's leading from behind. i just got off a...
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he has a record and joe biden can pick on that record. joe biden can say to paul ryan, that $716 billion that you and romney keep on saying we are robbing from medicare, we are not robbing from medicare. we're actually extending the life of medicare. you, ryan, you use that 7$716 billion in your budget plan and yet you put it in there based upon you actually turning medicare into a voucher program. ryan has got to respond. ryan is a detail person. i think if biden charges very specifically and effectively what the lies are, that both romney and ryan have been telling, based upon ryan's previous record it's going to be very difficult for ryan. that's exactly what joe biden ought to be doing. >> indeed he should. steve kornacki, professor robert reich, thank you both, gentlemen. >>> next, grab a pen. we have the latest lessons in science and history from the gop. stay with us. >> we all like pbs. i mean, i have grand kids, they love big bird and burt ander ni and so forth, but we borrow money effectively from china to make sure our kids don
he has a record and joe biden can pick on that record. joe biden can say to paul ryan, that $716 billion that you and romney keep on saying we are robbing from medicare, we are not robbing from medicare. we're actually extending the life of medicare. you, ryan, you use that 7$716 billion in your budget plan and yet you put it in there based upon you actually turning medicare into a voucher program. ryan has got to respond. ryan is a detail person. i think if biden charges very specifically and...
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biden. >> i was there. you electrified the place. they all say why do we have the 22nd amendment. why couldn't bill clinton run and be president for the next 30 years? >> we have it for good reasons. it's a hard job being president. you also have a vast array of people working for you. it worked, i think, well. i think we did the right thing to keep president roosevelt for a third term. when he died shortly after being elected to a fourth term and people didn't really know a full measure of his health challenges, the 22nd amendment passed. it's ironic at a time people thought the democrats had a lot in the white house. then it was, then after the last 50 years, the republicans had it more than the democrats. but, i think there's still an argument for saying that eight years, certainly eight years in a row is enough. you don't want this -- you don't want to run the risk of sclerosis in a democratic society. you don't want to give the idea that any country, particularly this one as big and diverse is dependen
biden. >> i was there. you electrified the place. they all say why do we have the 22nd amendment. why couldn't bill clinton run and be president for the next 30 years? >> we have it for good reasons. it's a hard job being president. you also have a vast array of people working for you. it worked, i think, well. i think we did the right thing to keep president roosevelt for a third term. when he died shortly after being elected to a fourth term and people didn't really know a full...
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>> increased pressure on joe biden. for democrats to get in a very good performance and you ent up looking, paul rye sn a very well-spoken person, although this is going to be his first debate on a stage like this. joe biden has done this many times before. he actually might have a little advantage. as we all know sometimes joe biden is saying things that actually draw attention. so i do think that this is going to be a must-see debate for the country, and, of course, the obama campaign is hoping for a little better performance. >> very gracious way to talk about things that the vice president said in the past. mark murray, thank you very much. >> thanks, alex. >>> in this week's office politic, christy todd whitman, first to defeat an uncome bent governor in an election. today new jersey's only female governor. talks chris christie and her role about bringing a very famous dog to the white house. first we talk about the female vote. >> do you think that the gop is at risk of losing the female vote for a generation pote
>> increased pressure on joe biden. for democrats to get in a very good performance and you ent up looking, paul rye sn a very well-spoken person, although this is going to be his first debate on a stage like this. joe biden has done this many times before. he actually might have a little advantage. as we all know sometimes joe biden is saying things that actually draw attention. so i do think that this is going to be a must-see debate for the country, and, of course, the obama campaign...
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i think this is teed up perfectly for joe biden. all the things we talked about last week we wished the president might have thrown at mitt romney or asked mitt romney about are even better for ryan. it was paul ryan who confronted with chris wallace asking him about the math of the budget plan was the one who said i just don't have time to get into that. joe biden can say, i'd like to give you all the time you need, take all the time you need, congressman ryan, and tell us which deductions you two are going to close. he can confront him on the $716 billion that he also likewise cuts from medicare. >> identical number. >> identical number. that's a wonderful thing to be teed up for vice president biden, and he can also just come at him on the issue of entitlements generally. paul ryan is somebody who apparently saved the survivor benefits that he got from social security, used them to go to a good college, and now has been a long time advocate of privatizing social security. >> i just wish joe biden would at some point ask the quest
i think this is teed up perfectly for joe biden. all the things we talked about last week we wished the president might have thrown at mitt romney or asked mitt romney about are even better for ryan. it was paul ryan who confronted with chris wallace asking him about the math of the budget plan was the one who said i just don't have time to get into that. joe biden can say, i'd like to give you all the time you need, take all the time you need, congressman ryan, and tell us which deductions you...
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also vice president joe biden wrapped up a two-day swing through florida, including a stop in ft. myers.
also vice president joe biden wrapped up a two-day swing through florida, including a stop in ft. myers.
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possible but it's a tough act because joe biden knows the stuff. he can rattle off the names and phone numbers of world leaders and -- >> he just may. >> he just may. he's folksy enough to do it. we'll take a quick break right here. waiting and watching for mitt romney from the vmi. quick break. we're back right after this. >>> time for the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. a fashion marketplace that helps local boutique that is don't have a site sell online. she knows content sells so she also lodged a companion online magazine as an ultimate source for what's in. for more watch "your business" sunday mornings on msnbc. i gave birth to my daughter on may 18th, five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options
possible but it's a tough act because joe biden knows the stuff. he can rattle off the names and phone numbers of world leaders and -- >> he just may. >> he just may. he's folksy enough to do it. we'll take a quick break right here. waiting and watching for mitt romney from the vmi. quick break. we're back right after this. >>> time for the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. a fashion marketplace that helps local boutique that is don't have a site sell...
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also vice president joe biden wrapped up a two-day swing through florida, including a stop in ft. myers. president obama and mitt romney keeping a low profile today. they are prepping for wednesday's first presidential de
also vice president joe biden wrapped up a two-day swing through florida, including a stop in ft. myers. president obama and mitt romney keeping a low profile today. they are prepping for wednesday's first presidential de
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governor romney's running mate says he agrees with something that vice president joe biden said today in north carolina. team fox coverage from the trail coming up here a bit later on the fox report. first, a virtual army of border patrol agents, sheriffs investigators and the f.b.i. now combing the mexican border to find who ever shot and killed one of their own. it happened earlier today near the town of naco, southeast of tucson in a known drug smuggling corridor there. three border patrol agents were together when the shooting happened. the agent who died is nicholas ivy, 30 years old. another of the agents wounded, but expected to survive, and a third was unhurt. >> the f.b.i. is at the scene is investigating and is going to get to the bottom of this. >> all of this now not far from the border patrol station named for brian terry, the last agent fatally shot in the line of duty. investigators found guns linked to the failed weapons sting operation fast and furious at the scene where he died in 2010. william lajeunesse with the news live tonight in los angeles. william? >> bill, n
governor romney's running mate says he agrees with something that vice president joe biden said today in north carolina. team fox coverage from the trail coming up here a bit later on the fox report. first, a virtual army of border patrol agents, sheriffs investigators and the f.b.i. now combing the mexican border to find who ever shot and killed one of their own. it happened earlier today near the town of naco, southeast of tucson in a known drug smuggling corridor there. three border patrol...
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so, you're not going to rattle joe biden. joe biden has been on the national stage. he ran for president twice as sitting vice president. bill: probably a smart strategy. what he is saying there, be careful and do not underestimate the vice president, despite a reputation for having gaffs. >> well, this is what you always do. you talk up the other guy a lot of pick pubs believe he will clean joe biden's clock. paul ryan has mastery of the federal budget and fact and details. he has a way of connecting with middle class voters especially middle class voters struggling economically. he has a way of touching them. republicans should watch out for that. bill: a lot of stories will be written how vice-presidential debates do not matter. in this case those stories may be wrong. thank you, byron. byron york in washington. >> thank you, bill. bill: we have full coverage of thursday's vice-presidential debate from danville, kentucky. 9:00 p.m. eastern time. our coverage starts on the fox news channel. patti ann: you don't want to miss it. even president obama poking fun at hi
so, you're not going to rattle joe biden. joe biden has been on the national stage. he ran for president twice as sitting vice president. bill: probably a smart strategy. what he is saying there, be careful and do not underestimate the vice president, despite a reputation for having gaffs. >> well, this is what you always do. you talk up the other guy a lot of pick pubs believe he will clean joe biden's clock. paul ryan has mastery of the federal budget and fact and details. he has a way...
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joe is very good on the attack. >> we saw a gentler joe biden. it may be more aggressive than we saw this time than president obama last week. maybe he'll bring up the 47% and bain capital. stay tuned, suzanne. >> tell us a little bit about that debate that happened not with the real guys, but fox news's bill o'reilly and comedy central's john stewart facing off over the weekend. >> yeah. i think this was a little more entertaining than the one we saw last wednesday. these guys dent have the burden of running for president, but enough of me. let's take a listen. >> mike is here in the audience sxfshgs he asked this question. if you could see any american elected president, who would you choose and why? >> i would say clint eastwood have to be my guy. >> well, why don't we ask him. so, um -- what? tell them to do what? >> that was one of the lighter moments. you know, there was some serious parts to this debate. both gentlemen talked policy, and i think, though, the american viewers were the winners in that debate, suzanne. >> absolutely. thank yo
joe is very good on the attack. >> we saw a gentler joe biden. it may be more aggressive than we saw this time than president obama last week. maybe he'll bring up the 47% and bain capital. stay tuned, suzanne. >> tell us a little bit about that debate that happened not with the real guys, but fox news's bill o'reilly and comedy central's john stewart facing off over the weekend. >> yeah. i think this was a little more entertaining than the one we saw last wednesday. these...
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what are the similarities between ted olson and joe biden? >> they are are about the same age and ted olson is one really good debater. i hope joe biden shows more than ted olson because he is one of the best litigators in america. he has studied joe biden's tapes and records and style and ted as you know is one of the best litigators in america and pretty good at adapting to that. >> chris: have you got lines already prepared? attack lines? >> i'm not the a line guy. you know me well. i don't try to be anybody other than who i am. i believe in what i believe and i do what i do and i really believe in the policies we are providing that we are pursuing. and at the end of the day i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> chris: i know you were hoping that joe biden makes one of his occasional gaffes. >> he doesn't do that in debaits. the gaffes he is kind of ledgentary for this. that is not in these situations. he is a disciplined person when speaks in these kind of situations and doesn't produce gaffes in these moments. those are when is off
what are the similarities between ted olson and joe biden? >> they are are about the same age and ted olson is one really good debater. i hope joe biden shows more than ted olson because he is one of the best litigators in america. he has studied joe biden's tapes and records and style and ted as you know is one of the best litigators in america and pretty good at adapting to that. >> chris: have you got lines already prepared? attack lines? >> i'm not the a line guy. you know...
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our most high-profile hire, joe biden, had only been with us six weeks. we still did not know joe the plumber yet. so it's funny to look back on that time. remember coming into september four years ago and we had a big convention in denver, an amazing summer, a fund toward that went off flawlessly, we had rolled out our new vice president and rolling in to september and we have a convention that big and we feel we have momentum and the next day john mccain announces sarah palin as vice presidents. you could just feel something all of a sudden. people can say what about how ready she was, but in that moment sarah palin made a pretty grand entrance onto the national stage. she blew through. i often talk about that as hurricane sarah. we had the republican convention. there were two hurricane events in my mind. they had to cancel the first day of their convention and then there was hurricane sarah. the head wind was still for about 18 days. john mccain came out of his convention in september with a three-point lead. that stretched to about six or eight point
our most high-profile hire, joe biden, had only been with us six weeks. we still did not know joe the plumber yet. so it's funny to look back on that time. remember coming into september four years ago and we had a big convention in denver, an amazing summer, a fund toward that went off flawlessly, we had rolled out our new vice president and rolling in to september and we have a convention that big and we feel we have momentum and the next day john mccain announces sarah palin as vice...
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biden -- governor palin and joe biden. if you don't understand what the cause is, it's virtually impossible to come up with a solution. we know what the cause is. the cause is manmade. that's the cause. that's why the polar icecap is melting. now, let's look at the facts. we have 3% of the world's oil reserves. we consume 25% of the oil in the world. john mccain has voted 20 times in the last decade-and-a-half against funding alternative energy sources, clean energy sources, wind, solar, biofuels. the way in which we can stop the greenhouse gases from emitting. we believe -- barack obama believes by investing in clean coal and safe nuclear, we can not only create jobs in wind and solar here in the united states, we can export it. china is building one to three new coal-fired plants burning dirty coal per week. it's polluting not only the atmosphere but the west coast of the united states. we should export the technology by investing in clean coal technology. we should be creating jobs. john mccain has voted 20 times agains
biden -- governor palin and joe biden. if you don't understand what the cause is, it's virtually impossible to come up with a solution. we know what the cause is. the cause is manmade. that's the cause. that's why the polar icecap is melting. now, let's look at the facts. we have 3% of the world's oil reserves. we consume 25% of the oil in the world. john mccain has voted 20 times in the last decade-and-a-half against funding alternative energy sources, clean energy sources, wind, solar,...
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in some ways i think with joe biden and paul ryan it's going to be an even more damaging conversation if ryan has to obviscate and come up with specifics because he's the numbers guy. >> he's going to be prepared. we'll be prepared. >> he doesn't have enough time it to answer the question, but going back to the theme of the day, what matters, the economy always matters. ever since the cold war it's been about the economy with the possible exception of '04, right? we're in the war of terrorism. >> even in '04 the exit polls showed that even though it was a foreign policy election, it was still about the economy. >> it's always about the economy. foreign policy is at best second or third most important. once again this foreign policy forray into mitt romney it may be a couple days lost. he's not talking about the economy on an area where i think it's impossible to catch up to barack obama. >> i do take the point that he needs to give a speech like this. it's necessary if you're running for president. it's not necessarily sufficient to win the presidency, but it's necessary that you do i
in some ways i think with joe biden and paul ryan it's going to be an even more damaging conversation if ryan has to obviscate and come up with specifics because he's the numbers guy. >> he's going to be prepared. we'll be prepared. >> he doesn't have enough time it to answer the question, but going back to the theme of the day, what matters, the economy always matters. ever since the cold war it's been about the economy with the possible exception of '04, right? we're in the war of...
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biden to give us a little hyperbole as we all know. i think people discount that hyperbole. we know it's hyperbole. we wake up every day trying to build businesses. it's a misnomer out there that private he can quit profits by shrinking companies. in fact, it's just the opposite. private equity creates value by growing great companies. >> so when people look at the attack ads, that you take a company, a steel company, you send the jobs overseas because that cuts the costs which it undoubtedly does, and in other cases you load it up with debt and you sell it, you don't think that's an inaccurate picture. >> that's totally inaccurate. in fact. we started a steel company in a cornfield in indiana. it's called steel dynamics. it has 6,000 employees today, one of the largest steel companies in the country. what happens in the campaigns, they need to use hyperbole to make these attacks. we have 350 investments, those companies over 28 years have grown twice as fast as the s&p 500. they've created $100 billion of new sales so that's extraordi
biden to give us a little hyperbole as we all know. i think people discount that hyperbole. we know it's hyperbole. we wake up every day trying to build businesses. it's a misnomer out there that private he can quit profits by shrinking companies. in fact, it's just the opposite. private equity creates value by growing great companies. >> so when people look at the attack ads, that you take a company, a steel company, you send the jobs overseas because that cuts the costs which it...
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but i think joe biden and paul ryan might be very evenly matched because of course joe biden was in the senate for 36 years, because he knows the federal government inside and out. and paul ryan jokes how he has been reading federal budget since he was 22 years old. so they both will have a lot of data, obviously coming at it have different perspectives, but i think they will be very well matched. >> thank you both so much. and back to the white house, mike with a good sunday to you. >> hi, alex. >> let's check out the president's schedule, what does it look like? >> well, he left a very rainy office, and is on his way to california. whenever a democratic president goes to california, that is usually to raise money. and indeed, the president has several fundraisers scheduled in california, in los angeles, including at the nokia center, with jennifer hudson, and katy perry, friends tell me she is pretty cool. he goes on to san francisco, california, for more fundraising in between, and he will be there for a dedication of the national monument, to caesar chavez, a hero. and let me check
but i think joe biden and paul ryan might be very evenly matched because of course joe biden was in the senate for 36 years, because he knows the federal government inside and out. and paul ryan jokes how he has been reading federal budget since he was 22 years old. so they both will have a lot of data, obviously coming at it have different perspectives, but i think they will be very well matched. >> thank you both so much. and back to the white house, mike with a good sunday to you....
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democrats are provided on joe biden. -vice president joe biden will know exactly what is going on he is in touch with the american people. i am just hopeful. that ryan will tell the truth. >> the former debate coach give his opinion on how it will go. >> i am sure that joe biden got a phone call from the white house that said. we did not go after governor romney as much as zero you have to turn up the heat. i think both men will be both their repaired. >> he says that he will be ready. >> i am looking afford. >> both will be in place for domestic issues is the only vice presidential debate before the election. christina, kron 4. >> the next presidential debate is in new york. joe biden and gop hopeful will take the stage for their first and only debate on thursday. you can watch that go to our new channel. comcast 193 for the latest news, weather and traffic updates and to watch all the presidential speeches. uninterrupted. and on digital 4.2. >> is really a military -- from israel. this was caught on heard military surv
democrats are provided on joe biden. -vice president joe biden will know exactly what is going on he is in touch with the american people. i am just hopeful. that ryan will tell the truth. >> the former debate coach give his opinion on how it will go. >> i am sure that joe biden got a phone call from the white house that said. we did not go after governor romney as much as zero you have to turn up the heat. i think both men will be both their repaired. >> he says that he will...
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joe biden's been reading paul ryan's book. today, two days before he meets the president before the. the debate, romney will attempt to seize on the administration's -- this is by our account his tenth foreign policy speech of the campaign. romney's forays into foreign policy has been a mixed bag. from his rush to criticize the president on egypt and libya before all the facts were known. >> if you had known that the ambassador had died -- >> i'm not going to take hypotheticals about what would have been known. we responded last night to the events that happened in egypt. >> romney's effort to banish his foreign policy credentials with a summer trip was widely panned after romney seemed to insult the british handling of the olympics. his campaign spent weeks trying to explain why he didn't mention the war in afghanistan in his convention speech. today, romney will try again. arguing quote, i know the president hopes for a safer, freer and more pros% middle east allied with the united states. i share this hope, but hope is not
joe biden's been reading paul ryan's book. today, two days before he meets the president before the. the debate, romney will attempt to seize on the administration's -- this is by our account his tenth foreign policy speech of the campaign. romney's forays into foreign policy has been a mixed bag. from his rush to criticize the president on egypt and libya before all the facts were known. >> if you had known that the ambassador had died -- >> i'm not going to take hypotheticals...
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going to make a lot of fun of joe biden, because i think he can be very effective. where is biden going to go? where is he going to go for the first crunch, the first sword in the ribs to paul ryan? >> i think the ryan plan. i think that's what he'll go for. on the one hand mitt romney kind of endorsed the ryan plan but he's walked away if it. i think he's going in on that, and he'll go in on the inconsistencies on where ryan and romney stand on the issues. he will force ryan to sort of defend his candidate and stand up for him, and i think he's also going after foreign policy. joe biden used to be the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. >> even though he's one of the worst in history. >> paul ryan has no foreign policy experience at all. >> i'm waiting for joe biden appear par thid division of iraq. it's not true. ryan has made had trips abroad including the middle east. >> they did fund-raiser abroad, too. >> i didn't know that. >> they did in london. >> i think joe biden will be very formidable. i think the challenge for paul ryan in the debate is
going to make a lot of fun of joe biden, because i think he can be very effective. where is biden going to go? where is he going to go for the first crunch, the first sword in the ribs to paul ryan? >> i think the ryan plan. i think that's what he'll go for. on the one hand mitt romney kind of endorsed the ryan plan but he's walked away if it. i think he's going in on that, and he'll go in on the inconsistencies on where ryan and romney stand on the issues. he will force ryan to sort of...
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not just republicans doing it back then, remember, it was democrats like joe biden who were saying he was going to be tested. he was a young senator. didn't have a lot of experience. they obviously believe in chicago, the president has been tested and passed the test, shep. >> shep: and that attack on the consulate in libya clearly put the president, at least to some degree on defense. >> no doubt about it. if you look at our polling in recent weeks, for example, on the question of who do you trust more to handle foreign policy? the president had a small dip. 352% say they trust him more. 41% would trust mitt romney. that's down for the president from 54% back in september. so clearly that terrorist attack in benghazi has had some effect. that is why mitt romney sees an opening here. he's trying to pounce on it. but the bottom line is even with that dip, the president has a double digit lead over romney in terms of foreign policy handling. >> ed henry live with us. thanks very much. next up, the running mates, vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan set to face off this thu
not just republicans doing it back then, remember, it was democrats like joe biden who were saying he was going to be tested. he was a young senator. didn't have a lot of experience. they obviously believe in chicago, the president has been tested and passed the test, shep. >> shep: and that attack on the consulate in libya clearly put the president, at least to some degree on defense. >> no doubt about it. if you look at our polling in recent weeks, for example, on the question of...